Piers Morgan Vs Ben Shapiro | The Full Interview

The video by Piers Morgan Uncensored is a full interview between Piers Morgan and Ben Shapiro discussing the dangers of prioritizing feelings over facts and the rise of tribalism in modern society.

The video is a full interview between Piers Morgan and Ben Shapiro, discussing the current state of society and politics.

They discuss the rise of the "woke" era, where feelings are prioritized over facts, and the danger of identifying personal truth with objective truth.

They also touch on the issue of politicians lying and the tribalism that has become prevalent in modern society.

Shapiro argues that while politicians have always lied, the current trend of disregarding facts and data in favor of personal feelings is a dangerous precedent.

• Piers Morgan and Ben Shapiro discuss the dangers of prioritizing feelings over facts and the rise of tribalism in modern society.
• Ben Shapiro explains that subjective authenticity became the core value for everyone.
• Politicians have always fibbed to the public, but the danger is that people have become incredibly tribal, and there is no moving them from their tribe.
• People have become incredibly tribal, and there is no moving them from their tribe.
• The philosophy of motivism suggests that people's viewpoints are driven by their internal emotions rather than facts.
• The woke area of politics is giving comedians the most material, and many traditional liberals are becoming more conservative as a result.
• People who consider themselves traditional liberals may be the key to the future of the West.
• Ben Shapiro sees politicians like Donald Trump as liars who prioritize their own interests over the truth.
• Shapiro believes that free speech is under attack in modern society.

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Introduction

• Piers Morgan and Ben Shapiro discuss the dangers of prioritizing feelings over facts and the rise of tribalism in modern society.
• Piers Morgan introduces Ben Shapiro and mentions their previous interview.
• Piers Morgan brings up Ben Shapiro's tweet from 2016: "Facts don't care about your feelings."

The Rise of Feelings Over Facts

• Ben Shapiro explains that subjective authenticity became the core value for everyone.
• Individualism was taken to its logical extreme, where people believe that everything they feel is important and that reality is an imposition on them.
• People believe that in order to be free, they have to speak their truth, which means that other people are aggressing on them when they disagree.
• People identify their truth with the truth, which means that anyone attacking their truth is attacking them as a human being.
• This movement away from fact-based discussions has led to a culture where feelings dominate, and anyone who defies those feelings is instantly branded the enemy.

The Danger of Politicians Fibbing

• Politicians have always fibbed to the public, and there's nothing new about that.
• What's new is that people are presented with data, and their immediate response is to dismiss it because of the person's motivation.
• Politicians not telling the truth or shading the truth in particular ways is not what's new.
• The danger is that people have become incredibly tribal, and there is no moving them from their tribe.
• People are presented with data, but they dismiss it because of the person's motivation.

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The Rise of Tribalism

• People have become incredibly tribal, and there is no moving them from their tribe.
• People park themselves into their tribe, and there is no conversation to be had.
• Ben Shapiro is always prepared to call out his own side if he genuinely feels there's been some egregious wrongdoing.
• Most people on social media are not prepared to do that.
• The rise of tribalism is dangerous because it leads to a lack of conversation and an inability to see the other side's point of view.

The Dangers of Prioritizing Feelings over Facts

• The philosophy of motivism suggests that people's viewpoints are driven by their internal emotions rather than facts.
• This allows people to attribute malicious intent to those they disagree with and ignore their facts.
• Tribalism has arisen from this philosophy, leading to people on one side viewing those on the other side as bad people.
• People on the other side may also view those who engage with the other side as bad people.
• This tribalism can make it difficult for people to have productive conversations and find common ground.

The Rise of Tribalism in Modern Society

• The woke area of politics is giving comedians the most material, and many traditional liberals are becoming more conservative as a result.
• People are craving normality and common sense, but no one is providing it.
• Cancel culture is the antithesis of democracy and liberalism, but the left uses it in a different way than most people.
• Cancel culture is often used to try to get people kicked off the air or fired for saying something that others don't like.
• Tribalism can make it difficult for people to have productive conversations and find common ground.

The Importance of Engaging in Debate

• People who consider themselves traditional liberals may be the key to the future of the West, as they may agree with some of the left's economic prescriptions but disagree with their methods.
• Being partisan doesn't help journalism, and many journalists who have become partisan have become activists instead.
• People are craving normality and common sense, but no one is providing it.
• Political leaders are trying to harness the passions of the moment to get what they want, but the population just wants things to stop.
• People need to engage in debate and put off Utopia for a while in order to find common ground and move forward.

The Importance of Facts over Feelings

• The philosophy of motivism suggests that people's viewpoints are driven by their internal emotions rather than facts.
• This allows people to ignore facts and prioritize their feelings instead.
• Tribalism has arisen from this philosophy, leading to people on one side viewing those on the other side as bad people.
• Cancel culture is often used to try to get people kicked off the air or fired for saying something that others don't like, rather than engaging in productive debate.
• Facts are important for productive conversations and finding common ground.

Ben Shapiro's Views on Politics and Truth

• Ben Shapiro sees politicians like Donald Trump as liars who prioritize their own interests over the truth.
• He believes that we have entered a post-truth era where people care less about the truth.
• However, he thinks that the majority of people still care about the truth.
• Shapiro believes that it is important to never lie to your audience and to always follow the best data possible.
• He thinks that being nuanced is important, even if it means taking a less extreme position.
• Shapiro believes that clarity is sometimes opposed by passion, and that a good discussion requires looking at data from various areas of the world.

Ben Shapiro's Views on Gun Control

• Shapiro believes that measures to improve gun safety should focus more on the gun owner than the weapon itself.
• He thinks that better screening procedures for people with severe mental illness are necessary.
• Shapiro believes that red flag laws are not effective because they are not practically followed.
• He thinks that law enforcement needs to have more ability and will to carry out actions when they know someone is severely mentally disturbed or dangerous.
• Shapiro believes that removing a person's guns and keeping track of them is necessary in certain circumstances.
• He thinks that the debate on gun control should focus on making it safer in a country with 400 million firearms in circulation.

Ben Shapiro's Views on Tribalism

• Shapiro believes that tribalism is a growing problem in modern society.
• He thinks that people are increasingly identifying with their political tribe rather than their country.
• Shapiro believes that this is leading to a lack of civil discourse and an inability to have productive discussions.
• He thinks that people need to be willing to listen to opposing viewpoints and engage in civil discourse.
• Shapiro believes that people need to be willing to change their minds when presented with new evidence.
• He thinks that people need to focus on facts rather than feelings.

Ben Shapiro's Views on Free Speech

• Shapiro believes that free speech is under attack in modern society.
• He thinks that people are increasingly trying to silence those with opposing viewpoints.
• Shapiro believes that this is a dangerous trend that threatens democracy.
• He thinks that people need to be willing to engage in civil discourse and listen to opposing viewpoints.
• Shapiro believes that people need to be willing to defend free speech, even if they disagree with the speech in question.
• He thinks that people need to be willing to challenge their own beliefs and engage in productive discussions.

The Importance of Conversations

• Having conversations that don't end up with shouting and insults is important for society to move away from tribalism.
• These conversations can be productive and lead to a better understanding of different perspectives.
• Ben Shapiro has a show called the Sunday special where he brings on people who disagree to talk through issues.
• These conversations can be surprisingly pleasant and productive.
• It's important to recognize that life is more nuanced than just black and white.

The Definition of a Woman

• A woman is a biological human female.
• Stating this fact has become a stick to beat people with.
• 99% of the entire planet agrees with this fact.
• Trans women are women, but there are circumstances where a trans woman is not a woman.
• There is no automatic right for a trans woman to be housed in a women's prison.

The Negative Consequences of Misinformation

• Undermining societal perceptions of truth is dangerous.
• The idea that a biological man is a female is misinformation.
• Allowing biological men to compete in women's sports undermines women's sports.
• Teaching young children about gender fluidity and how boys can become girls is insane.
• This has led to a rapid rise in people identifying as trans or gender non-binary and a rise in suicidal ideation and depression.

The Example of Scotland

• Scotland's limitless gender identity policy led to a rapist being housed in a women's prison.
• Scotland's leader, who supported this policy, lost her job as a consequence.
• Trans women are women, but some of those women may be housed with men.
• Exposing the ideology behind limitless gender identity as baseless and nonsense is important.
• Undermining societal perceptions of truth is extraordinarily negative.

Attack on Truth and Institutions

• The attack on truth and institutions is a broader issue.
• Teaching kids about being gender non-binary or trans is part of this attack.
• Gender dysphoria is a real condition, but it affects a small percentage of the population.
• Indoctrinating entire generations of people and forcing all of society to go along with it is not the solution.
• It is important to find ways to help people who suffer from gender dysphoria, whether through medical therapy or family support.

War Against Reality

• The modern context cannot understand why kids would read Roald Dahl.
• Books like Roald Dahl's are important because they prepare kids for the real world.
• Modern society is teaching kids that everybody wins and participation prizes are given out, which is not preparing them for the real world.
• The destruction of men in the west is the great story of the last 40 years.
• Men need marriage, roles, and actual things to do in the course of their lifetime.

Damage to Men and Masculinity

• The effect on men and by proxy on women is that everything is now characterized as toxic masculinity.
• The destruction of men in the west is the great story of the last 40 years.
• Men need marriage, roles, and actual things to do in the course of their lifetime.
• Men were trained to get married, have kids, protect and defend their wife and kids, and this was their role.
• Being an adult is no longer required of you, and society is going to take care of you no matter what problem you have.

Andrew Tate's Diagnoses and Prescriptions

• Andrew Tate's diagnoses of the problem are pretty correct.
• A lot of his prescriptions are completely wrong.
• Men have been emasculated and need to reclaim their masculinity.
• Men need to take responsibility for their own lives and actions.
• Men need to find a path from being a child to being an adult.

Defining Masculinity

• Men need to be masculine, want to win, and cultivate the ability to succeed and thrive in the world.
• A model of masculinity is a guy who is married, has kids, lives in the community, betters the community, hires people, and creates a business.
• Historically, these were the things that defined manhood, but they no longer do.
• There is a cultural move against masculinity, and masculinity is being conflated with toxic masculinity.
• There is a danger in prioritizing feelings over facts and the rise of tribalism in modern society.

Gay Marriage and Parenting

• Marriage is a societal institution, and the question is which relationships society chooses to sanctify.
• The fundamental redefinition of marriage happened before same-sex marriage within heterosexual marriage.
• The purpose of heterosexual marriage is man, woman, child, but it has been redefined to two people who love each other.
• The government has no fundamental role in propagating relationships other than ones that benefit society.
• There are hierarchies of options for parenting, and the ideal is man, woman, child.
• Gay parenting is better than having a child in an orphanage, but there is a fundamental distinction between men and women, and mothers and fathers are both necessary.

Fluidity of Sexual Orientation

• Not everyone who is gay was always gay from the time they were born.
• There is some fluidity to sexual behavior and sexual activity, but there is less fluidity to sexual orientation.
• The government should not criminalize private activity.
• The benefits that a government gives should propagate childbearing and rearing within the context of biological parents.
• Denying same-sex couples the same rights as straight couples is not about being born or not born in a particular way.
• If one of Ben Shapiro's kids turned out to be gay, he would love them the same way he loves all of his kids.

Equality and Fairness

• Ben Shapiro is about fairness and equality for all.
• There is a difference between benefits and rights.
• The government should not intervene in particular activity, but it does things to protect children and engage parents who are fantastic parents.
• There is no particular distinction about what combination of parents a child has.
• Denying same-sex couples the same benefits as straight couples is not about fairness or equality.
• Ben Shapiro believes in treating everyone with respect and dignity, regardless of their sexual orientation.

Marriage and Religion

• Marriage exists in different iterations, including religious and governmental sanctioned marriage.
• Ben Shapiro is not in favor of his religion sanctifying same-sex couples.
• His religion propagates the idea that man, woman, and child is the model for families.

Trump vs. DeSantis

• Donald Trump is still powerful in the Republican party, but DeSantis is nearly half his age and has all the dynamism.
• Trump is not capable of working it out with people he sees as potential or real rivals to him.
• DeSantis can beat Trump because Trump seems whining when he is losing.
• Republicans have warm feelings towards Trump personally, but they can't keep losing to their opponents.
• DeSantis is the person who is putting those W's on the board right now.

Joe Biden's Age and Mental Decline

• Joe Biden is already the oldest president in history and showing a lot of signs of mental decline.
• Ben Shapiro thinks they will have to staple him upright on a horse if he runs again.
• Kamala Harris is the worst politician ever cobbled together from the laboratory, and she is backing him up.
• Pete Buttigieg is busily destroying his own reputation over the seas Palestine train spill.
• Donald Trump has gone down there today just to be the hero.

Nikki Haley's Presidential Aspirations

• Nikki Haley has put a hat in the ring for presidential aspirations.
• She was immediately the victim of an extraordinary onslaught from Don Lemon.
• Don Lemon happened to take Piers Morgan's old office at CNN.
• Nikki Haley is 51 years old and in her prime.

Harry and Meghan

• Harry and Meghan personify woke culture with their entitlement, virtue signaling, and hypocrisy.
• They believe they have the right to get people removed from their jobs if they don't agree with them.
• The public reaction to them is heartening because they are terrible.
• Their entire value is predicated on trashing the family and the monarchy.
• Destroying their source of value, which is the inside view of the monarchy, will lead to diminishing returns.
• There is no love for them in America, only ridicule.

Chat GPT and AI

• AI learning to self-design is the biggest threat to mankind, according to Professor Stephen Hawking.
• Unleashing forces that we have no idea the consequences of is a concern.
• The government may not be capable of controlling this technology.
• The rise of Internet pornography combined with chat GPT could play on the emotions of people using the internet.
• We could be one generation away from human extinction.
• The uncontrolled fashion of unleashing this technology is a serious concern.

Ben Shapiro's Positive Outlook on the World

• The era of Anglo-American dominance is not yet over, as seen in the situation in Ukraine.
• Reality always wins, and the forces of wokery are running up against the rocks of reality.
• The backlash against wokery is now real, and people have had enough.
• The people pushing wokery don't realize the resistance they are facing, and it will get ugly for them.
• Ben Shapiro's business has resonated so hugely because they are honest about their political biases and try to be as factual as possible while providing a wide variety of views.
• The power of the brand is being fair-minded and opening up conversations for people to learn more than they came in with.

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